Resume Question: Multiple roles/positions in the same org

I've only had 3 employers (one was an internship while doing my college thesis) but in my 1st full time job, held several positions in the span of 4.5 years. Couple of questions, and i've tried looking in the other Resume Question type posts:

1. Should i include the internship job? It's been 7 years and i'm having a hard time recalling what my accomplishments are in that job, although i'm sure i can if i tried hard enough.

2. For multiple jobs in the same company, should i still indicate responsibility, admin, and accomplishments for each one or can i skip the more entry level roles?

Here's what it looks like:

January 2004 to November 2004: Operations Manager
August 2002 to December 2003: Shift Manager
November 2001 to August 2002: Team Leader/Senior Team Leader
June 2000 to October 2001: Customer Service Associate/Team Officer-in-Charge

I could have gone into more detail at entry level as there were several layers of it (CSA 1-3) but didn't feel there was value to it.

3. Does it make sense to put the company name as a heading and enumerate the positions held under it?

Still working on getting down to one page. Harder than I initially expected! Thanks for the great podcast by the way. I've listened to You're Resume Stinks at least three times and have finally got around to actually doing it. My last update was in mar 2006.

Carlo

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Resume Question: Multiple roles/positions in the same org

Carlo-

When I get into the details of resumes... alas, it depends. But:

After 7 years, you can [probably] drop the internship. (Wish you'd kept better notes, huh? That's why we review quarterly. Pretty easy when you do that.

Yes, separate out each job. Don't list companies as separate lines because each ends up taking THREE lines (one plus two carriage returns).. it's less efficient... and as you're discovering, efficiency is harder than it looks and therefore valuable.

The three CSA jobs can [probably] be one entry, unless the different levels were extreme. In that you were only in the "three" jobs for 18 months, most companies would suspect, I think, that you were padding it if you listed each CSA level as a separate job. It does depend on the job description, but I think one is right.

it's a privilege to serve you,

Mark

Multiple roles/positions in the same org

Mark,

Can you give some kind of example for the multiple positions. I held three positions with the same company in almost three years.

The way I currently have it is as follows:

Jan 2003 to Jun 2004, Financial & Cost Analyst, ABC Co., Abc, PA - Responsibilities
Bullet
Bullet
Bullet

Apr 2002 to Jan 2003, Pricing Manager - Responsibilities
Bullet
Bullet
Bullet

Sep 2001 to Apr 2002, Operations Manager - Responsibilities
Bullet
Bullet
Bullet

Is this the format that you recommended to Carlos or is there a better way to show this?

Thanks for all you guys do!

KC

Resume Question: Multiple roles/positions in the same org

KC-

What you have is fine except you NEED to include the company name in all three slots. It takes up almost no room, and avoids a potential misunderstanding.

Mark

Resume Question: Multiple roles/positions in the same org

[quote="mahorstman"]
The three CSA jobs can [probably] be one entry, unless the different levels were extreme. In that you were only in the "three" jobs for 18 months, most companies would suspect, I think, that you were padding it if you listed each CSA level as a separate job. It does depend on the job description, but I think one is right.[/quote]

Mark, a quick follow up - what about jobs for the same company that aren't sequential?

Company A
Company B
Back to Company A in a higher position.

I presume recruiters like to see them as seperate jobs - probably a minor point.

Thanks for everything - can't wait to see the new stuff coming.

Brian

Resume Question: Multiple roles/positions in the same org

Brian-

List them separately, citing each company each time.

Be ready - you'll get questions about leaving and coming back.

Mark

An Extreme Case

I think I have a bit of an extreme case and would appreciate your thoughts.

After some high school and college jobs, I did TA and Research while working on my Ph.D. in Physics.

After getting my masters, and with the thesis half written, I founded an Internet company.

That was 11 years ago.

As the founder, the process of growing the company has been one of divesting myself of responsibilities, rather than adding them. Constantly delegating more and more.

How is this kind of career path best portrayed?

Do I represent the whole 11 years with one entry?
Does it basically boil down to a list of accomplishments?

Many thanks for any feedback.

Yours,
Lance

Resume Question: Multiple roles/positions in the same org

Lance-

Unless your title changed or there was a demarcation at some point, then yes, it's just one big entry.

Don't leave off the TA and REsearch stuff.

Happy to help.

Mark

Resume Question: Multiple roles/positions in the same org

Thanks for your feedback. As you might imagine, the story is a bit complex.

I founded the company in 1995 by my self, so I did everything.
Between 1995 and 2000 the company grew to about 12 employees and by 2000 my roles were: Chairman of the Board, CEO, CTO, Project Manager, Spokesman, System architect, direct manager of engineers.

In 2000, I hired a full time CEO. Between 2000 and 2005 the company grew to 35 employees and I shed responsibilities down to: Chairman, President, CTO, Spokesman, System Architect, Enterprise Sales Engineer.

In 2006 I stepped aside as Chairman for someone with a background that would facilitate accelerated company growth.

So, in short, I have and continue to wear many hats, some of which have changed over time. The teaching assistant and research assistant jobs just feel odd next to this. My academic discipline is not even related to what I am doing now.

I am mostly working on the resume for the occasions when someone requests it as part of a proposal, and of course if the day ever comes when I sell the company.

Thanks for your help, and many thanks for all the great information in your podcasts. They have been tremendously useful to me. Especially since I have no real experience of working under anyone else, so I don't have any models to work from.

Lance

Overlapping positions

What if the positions overlapped in time? 

I performed the following duties simultaneously during my last 3-4 years at a previous job: relief manager, customer service rep, front-end supervisor, accounting clerk, inventory management technician, and fill-in for other departments. I might do one job during my first 4 hours and then another during the second half of the shift, and the next day, I might do something totally different. I'm still early in my career, and the previous job info is still valuable.

I'm assuming I list the most important positions (i.e., non-menial positions) separately, describing my job functions and highlights, but should I be concerned that the job positions have chronological overlap? Or do you have a suggestion/recommendation on how to handle this situation?

If you've covered this in podcasts since 2007, I apologize. Just let me know and I'll look/listen for the answer as I continue to catch up.

Thanks!

Jerad

Hi Jerad

As long as you had all these jobs for the same employer, you didn't have multiple jobs, you had one job that encompassed a variety of responsibilities. (You can tell this, because you only got one paycheck!) List it as one job with the varied responsibilities in your responsibilities paragraph, starting with the most impressive. Choose a job title which encompasses your responsibilities. For example, Retail Assistant is vague enough to cover all of those activities.

Wendii

What If Both Employers and Jobs Overlapped? (Freelancer Concern)

This is a common problem for free-lancers who get repeat intermittent engagements with different companies, whether by direct contracting, subcontracting, or both.

Partial Example

  • Subcontractor for ABC company from 1999 to Present with unique projects of different time spans occurring several times a year.

    ... while at the same time ...
     

  • Direct contractor for FGH company from June 2005 to February 2006 on a single project; and again from September 2009 to September 2010 on a different project.

    ... and ...
     

  • Direct contractor for MNO company from November 2007 to March 2008.

    ... and
     

  • Subcontractor for XYZ company from 2008 to Present with intermittent unique projects.

What's a Feasible Chronological Solution?

Do you start with the company that you've worked for the longest and list the date of the most-recently-ended project ... even if it's earlier than the end date for a project with a different company?

Or list the projects based on a strict chronology, which means repeating a company many times? 

Or ... ?

RoMaJo

Temporary Assignments

I'm currently a supervisor in IT, but there was a departure in our Purchasing management, and I was asked to step in and supervise that group con-currently with my IT role, until they re-hire in purchasing in the next several months.

Is this a seperate entry or a accomplishment bullet

Regards,
Jason

Overlapping and repeated employment and freelance projects

I have the same questions for similar situations. Having worked in a variety of time-limited  roles (NIH research studies, grant-funded community health education projects), I've also freelanced as a consultant in-between these projects (on and off for years).

On top of that, I've been rehired by three employers when additional funding was secured and/or my specialized skill set was needed (smoking cessation program development implementation.

So in the standard chronological order, my positions appear to be artificially short-lived (1-2 years) and overlapping. It's always a problem when trying to input the data into a standard online application too. It's actually a positive sign that my previous employers have sought me out for rehire, that I'm able to free-lance successfully in-between employment and that I've been able to successfully take on multiple part-time projects, but the standard formats don't seem to capture this properly.  Suggestions? Thanks in advance! 

Overlapping “Jobs” and Roles Question Also

 I, too, have a question around this. I have a full time primary job but also have simultaneously served as President of my shared ownership community (condominium). In the President role I have had responsibilities that included property and financial management, projects, and strategic planning - with accomplishments to go with each. As an unpaid secondary role it runs 100% in parallel with my full time primary job. The responsibilities and accomplishments demonstrate different skills than my primary job, therefore I do not want to exclude it.

I also have a second community club leadership role, also in parallel. This one is smaller (much) and has few notable accomplishment; I could leave this off, or include it only when tailoring my resume to a particular position for which one of these skills or accomplishments would be meaningful.
 
My question then is how to list it (or both) in the reverse chronological format?